Comments on: How To Support A Same-Sex Marriage Ban Without Coming Across As A Tool

By: 2008 Niblets: Rock the Vote Here! at Mormon Matters

2008 Niblets: Rock the Vote Here! at Mormon Matters — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 06:06:15 +0000

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By: Last Chance for Niblet Nominations at Mormon Matters

Last Chance for Niblet Nominations at Mormon Matters — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:05:48 +0000

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By: C. L. Hanson

C. L. Hanson — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:23:53 +0000

Re: your suggestion #2: That is exactly the honest message MoHoHawaii was requesting in his post Yes on 8 ads I would like to see.

By: Rob

Rob — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:47:35 +0000

I'm afraid this will backfire and cause the general population to be skeptical of LDS, and they won't see any positive work they do. See this Evangelical website for example.

By: robot

robot — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:04:32 +0000

Regardless of the voting outcome, the process has been enlightening to those who have been effected. In spite of what may be said by LDS church leaders regarding “make nice with the homosexual sinners” their very public involvement in the politics and considerable financial support of this proposition makes one thing perfectly clear: Homosexuals are NOT welcome in the Mormon church. I hope that gays will learn this lesson once and for all.

By: Gwennaëlle

Gwennaëlle — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:38:36 +0000

“In my relatively short experience, being open-minded is a virtue and doesn’t involve what you believe, but how you respond when faced with things that you don’t believe.”

Amen!

By: Bruce

Bruce — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:26:51 +0000

lol …. read your blogs….. Unbelievable. Are Mormons really so fragile minded that they let self appointed prophets tell them what they should think, feel and do?

Silly Mormons….. Your “prophets” are the same people that convinced you to allow them to marry your 14 year old daughters as their 6th wife a 150 years ago. How’s that for family values and protecting the family. Ironic that a group of people that practiced a family lifestyle that was so socially reprehensible they were evicted from 5 US states and then exiled to the desert would be so quick to tell other people how to live…..You guys are ridiculous

By: D. Rolling Kearney

D. Rolling Kearney — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:05:16 +0000

RE: Tez’s comment: “Please keep your superstition out of marriage. I won’t tell you not to “believe” anything, but separation of church and state suggests that your (and all religious) beliefs have no say in whom I love.”

First of all, referring to a person’s religious belief as “superstition” is just as offensive and “discriminatory” as anti-homosexual terms. Just a thought.

Another thought: Separation of church and state was meant to keep the government from proscribing a religion to its people, and to keep any specific religion from having too much influence on the affairs government. In no way does the “separation of church and state” keep religious voters from voting according to their religious beliefs. Sorry.

Also, “love” is fine. It’s the “sex” part that we have a problem with. I love a lot of people who are the same gender as myself, but we don’t have sex.

By: Inthedoghouse

Inthedoghouse — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:47:59 +0000

I am impressed with the different comments that have been made on this post, and how civilly the people have communicated on a sensitive topic.
I am just an “old dog” and have been frightened with what I have seen in the church concerning this issue and our youth.
I too agree that the only way to state my position on the issue of same-sex marriage is, that I know that Thomas S. Monson is a prophet of God, and what he says goes.
What is frightening to me is the division I have seen in the church over this issue. It is a literal vision of the dividing of the wheat from the tares. When a prophet of God issues a statement of belief, and asks us to respond to that belief there should be no question.
I feel that what is actually happening here goes way beyond the issue of same-sex marriage. I believe it is an issue of bedrock testimony. It is one where we will see who believes in the foundational principle of revelation and latter day leadership in reference to priesthood keyholders.
Does that make sense? It is way more significant than if homosexuality is a sin or not…it is a matter of if we as a church are willing to follow our prophet when we are called upon to do so.
I must say that I am humbled at your choice to follow in the face of adversity. I can only hope that others may be instructed by your example .
Thank you for your willingness to share.

By: Tez

Tez — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:39:20 +0000

Please keep your superstition out of marriage. I won’t tell you not to “believe” anything, but separation of church and state suggests that your (and all religious) beliefs have no say in whom I love.
Peace,
Tez