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	<title>Comments on: The Gay Ward</title>
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	<description>Your "token gay" mormon blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Jason of The East</title>
		<link>http://www.soymademegay.com/2008/07/the-gay-ward/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason of The East</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The revolution will come when the revelation is received that monogamous gay mormon couples can marry and adopt... just think of the membership increase! (and a happy one at that) 

It could happen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The revolution will come when the revelation is received that monogamous gay mormon couples can marry and adopt&#8230; just think of the membership increase! (and a happy one at that) </p>
<p>It could happen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://www.soymademegay.com/2008/07/the-gay-ward/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your post.  I think one of the biggest reminders it gives is that people cannot be pigeonholed.  People&#039;s lives are more complex than we can imagine and often can&#039;t see the intricacies that lie below the surface.  In colleges these days, they often use the &quot;iceberg&quot; analogy relative to cross-cultural understanding, but I think it could equally apply to individual people.  

Anyway, stay strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post.  I think one of the biggest reminders it gives is that people cannot be pigeonholed.  People&#8217;s lives are more complex than we can imagine and often can&#8217;t see the intricacies that lie below the surface.  In colleges these days, they often use the &#8220;iceberg&#8221; analogy relative to cross-cultural understanding, but I think it could equally apply to individual people.  </p>
<p>Anyway, stay strong.</p>
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		<title>By: Kengo Biddles</title>
		<link>http://www.soymademegay.com/2008/07/the-gay-ward/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Kengo Biddles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to &quot;Shame on you for bringing up such a controversial topic!&quot;...

I think that so many Mormon&#039;s still ascribe to the &quot;if we ignore it, it will go away&quot; axiom that my older generation did.

*sigh*

That and Utah Mormons don&#039;t like to think for themselves...just close your mind and say amen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to &#8220;Shame on you for bringing up such a controversial topic!&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I think that so many Mormon&#8217;s still ascribe to the &#8220;if we ignore it, it will go away&#8221; axiom that my older generation did.</p>
<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>That and Utah Mormons don&#8217;t like to think for themselves&#8230;just close your mind and say amen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://www.soymademegay.com/2008/07/the-gay-ward/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by, I&#039;m glad you like the site.

Some resources that you may already be aware of, but that may help:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.northstarlds.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Northern Lights&lt;/a&gt;
An organization for gay Mormons.  I like these guys because they aren&#039;t usually very heavy-handed in their approach.  There is an online forum as well, which would be useful for meeting other guys in your area.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e1fa5f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=3e05c8322e1b3110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;God Loveth His Children&lt;/a&gt;
The Church&#039;s most recent pamphlet regarding homosexuality.  Full of official-ness.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Desperation-Understanding-Same-gender-Attraction/dp/1590383311/sr=1-1/qid=1165012300/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-8928769-7475011?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In Quiet Desperation&lt;/a&gt;
While I&#039;m wary of recommending this one (only because I&#039;ve never actually read it), this book has become pretty much the gay Mormon bible.  I know a lot of people who were helped by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by, I&#8217;m glad you like the site.</p>
<p>Some resources that you may already be aware of, but that may help:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.northstarlds.org/" rel="nofollow">Northern Lights</a><br />
An organization for gay Mormons.  I like these guys because they aren&#8217;t usually very heavy-handed in their approach.  There is an online forum as well, which would be useful for meeting other guys in your area.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e1fa5f74db46c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&#038;locale=0&#038;sourceId=3e05c8322e1b3110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&#038;hideNav=1" rel="nofollow">God Loveth His Children</a><br />
The Church&#8217;s most recent pamphlet regarding homosexuality.  Full of official-ness.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Desperation-Understanding-Same-gender-Attraction/dp/1590383311/sr=1-1/qid=1165012300/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-8928769-7475011?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books" rel="nofollow">In Quiet Desperation</a><br />
While I&#8217;m wary of recommending this one (only because I&#8217;ve never actually read it), this book has become pretty much the gay Mormon bible.  I know a lot of people who were helped by it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ezra</title>
		<link>http://www.soymademegay.com/2008/07/the-gay-ward/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Ezra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Cliff,

I stumbled across your blog after spending almost 4 hours on the phone with a close friend who I had just &quot;come out&quot; to.  He is not Mormon, but I am.

I&#039;ve gone and read every post you have written and I can say that you have a gift for eloquent writing.  I&#039;ve booked marked your blog, and I will continue to look forward to your posts.

The position you are in is exactly like mine, oddly enough-- right down to the film degree. I&#039;d been meeting with the most loving Bishop I&#039;d met in my life (I honestly do believe he saved me from either physical or spiritual death or both) while attending school in Boston, and I moved to California this spring, and am back to square one.

I pray that you continue to follow your heart and do what you know is right.  I&#039;m so screwed up inside that I can&#039;t imagine my life actively straight or gay.  I&#039;ve lived in secrecy and pain for so long that I can&#039;t imagine my life any other way.

My friend whom I talked to said that he would love me no matter what I chose, but he said that the very least I should do is be honest with people about who I am, especially myself.

I&#039;m not convinced that homosexuality is really &quot;who I am&quot; but it&#039;s certainly my sexual orientation.

I don&#039;t know the point of me getting into all this is, but I guess I just wanted to thank you for your writing.  I&#039;d love to discuss this with you more if you are interested, so feel free to e-mail me if you&#039;d like.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Cliff,</p>
<p>I stumbled across your blog after spending almost 4 hours on the phone with a close friend who I had just &#8220;come out&#8221; to.  He is not Mormon, but I am.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gone and read every post you have written and I can say that you have a gift for eloquent writing.  I&#8217;ve booked marked your blog, and I will continue to look forward to your posts.</p>
<p>The position you are in is exactly like mine, oddly enough&#8211; right down to the film degree. I&#8217;d been meeting with the most loving Bishop I&#8217;d met in my life (I honestly do believe he saved me from either physical or spiritual death or both) while attending school in Boston, and I moved to California this spring, and am back to square one.</p>
<p>I pray that you continue to follow your heart and do what you know is right.  I&#8217;m so screwed up inside that I can&#8217;t imagine my life actively straight or gay.  I&#8217;ve lived in secrecy and pain for so long that I can&#8217;t imagine my life any other way.</p>
<p>My friend whom I talked to said that he would love me no matter what I chose, but he said that the very least I should do is be honest with people about who I am, especially myself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced that homosexuality is really &#8220;who I am&#8221; but it&#8217;s certainly my sexual orientation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the point of me getting into all this is, but I guess I just wanted to thank you for your writing.  I&#8217;d love to discuss this with you more if you are interested, so feel free to e-mail me if you&#8217;d like.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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